I figure if I need teenager slang, I know a whole mess of teenagers.
Doesn't necking mean you're going out with a vampire?
I think it's assumed these days that all dating involves vampires.
Well I heard they got pinned! I was hopin' they would!
So these days, it's not 'going steady' and 'necking', it's 'a thing' and 'doing it'?
(Back in *my* day it was 'courting' and 'canoodling' because we liked the alliteration.)
It's "dating" or "together", and "making out" or "fooling around". (Where "making out" is mostly kissing in a horizontal position, and "fooling around" implies the same but with more heavy petting and other things that aren't quite PiV sex.) "Doing it" is specifically sex, and frequently "hooking up" is too, unless it's "hooking up with some friends", in which case you just mean meeting up with them.
Edited at 2010-11-10 01:04 am (UTC)
In my day, nobody[*] "dated", either as "dating around" or as some descriptor of ongoing relationship. You hung out with a crowd and then one person, until after a while you were "going with" or "going out with" or "going around together". We necked a lot. Some people had sex. I put my junior athletic letter on my school cardigan, but that was a weird retro Happy-Days thing to do. (I would have earned a senior letter if we had had girls' hockey, but as it was I just barely got enough points in five years for the junior letter).
Everyone's parents tried to discourage them from exclusive relationships, saying "In my day, we dated around and had more fun." Nobody liked to ask how far they went in those non-exclusive relationships in our parents' day, but we all thought that was the main difference.
Nowadays, it seems like people make out. Also, they hook up. That might mean getting together with someone you weren't already involved with and making out with him or her, or it might mean getting together with someone you weren't previously involved with and having sex. One can't assume that someone who admits to hooking up is having sex.
[*] Having compared notes recently with people who grew up not too far away and near the same time (started university in 1979), I acknowledge that the avoidance of the word "dating" might be very localised.
People do, in fact, make out today! And yes, they hook up, and yes, hooking up doesn't mean as much as it might, except when it does. It's all very confusing. But hooking up doesn't mean getting in touch with someone in the sense of opening a line of communication with a platonic friend. I find myself amused and appalled when people somewhat older than me say, "Oh, I'll be in town from x-date to y-date, we should hook up then!" I know what they mean, but my gut-level reaction is, "ACK!"
So what's the term lately for "going steady," anyway?
May vary regionally. I've heard my young friends say "going out with" or "seeing" or "dating." No steadiness involved, however.
I guess I have seen books that use phrases like that, but I mostly just assume that they're older books. But now that I think about it, that's not necessarily the case- I usually place books based on the language and social context they seem to be operating in, and only very recently started actually date-checking my reading.
So now I am questioning the actual writing dates of books I read as a kid...
The story that had a teenager talking this way also had him picked on for being of Middle Eastern descent (which could be a number of years) and being called "Osama." Which was pretty darn specific.
2010-11-09 11:39 pm (UTC)
I don't actually recall people saying " going steady" in the 70s, where I wa s either
See also, petting.
(I was so confused by Petting and Necking for the longest time. Seriously, WTF? Teen slang confused me even before I was a teen.)
I have only seen "petting" in the context of evangelical teenage culture T-shirts saying, "Pet your dog, not your date." Which would be more hip if anybody talked about petting their date in the first place.
When I was in high school the trend was to trade Swatch watches. Everyone always looks at me funny when I saw that one... I suspect it may have been regional.
OK, Mris. Now I want to hear about your high school dating experiences.
With me, "a thing" was to borrow each other's heavy metal band t-shirts.
Not in high school, but I may have borrowed my first college boyfriend's surplus army shirt-jacket kind of a lot in the months we were dating.
He was about 6'3" and not a narrow-shouldered young man, so you can picture the complete look on me with either a fitted mid-90s dark colored T or else a baggy one with geeky stuff on it. And jeans and boots. Of course.
Edited at 2010-11-10 12:56 pm (UTC)
My 20-year-old daughter's friends consider me to have been a "player" because I dated two guys at a time in my single days, and to be a "cougar" now because J is 7 years younger than I.
Hee. I hope J. is suitably amused at being cast in the role of your boy-toy at this point in your lives together.
Where are the editors in all this? Isn't it their job to notice this and stop it before it gets out the gate?
I think the problem with a short story collection is that the short story has already been published in another form, so the editor of the collection is kind of stuck. Clearly you can correct tyops, but do you want to rewrite a story that's already appeared? That's much iffier.
Which doesn't explain the first editor, necessarily. But.
Also, when you have an established author, there's a lot more room for the author to stet things like that, things they maybe should listen to an editor on. Do you really want to get Big Name Award-Winning Author X upset with you and have them pull the story you solicited over one or two usages like that? So maybe you make the suggestion but you don't push it.
That's only my theory; I have never been Big Name Award-Winning Author X in this equation.
I haven't reread any of the teen lit books I enjoyed as a teen- if "enjoyed" is the proper term"- in 40 or so years. Still: they were outdated THEN, and I tremble to think what today's teens would think of them; akin to Jane Austen (but less well-written), almost certainly.