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The end of a metaphysical debate [Feb. 20th, 2010|08:49 am]
Marissa Lingen
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timprov: So if you make something that's half muffin and half kangaroo, but then you only frost it inside the pouch, is it a muffin or a cupcake?
Me: Only the joey is a cupcake. The rest is a muffin.
timprov: Do the cupcakes breed true when the joey grows up?
Me: Look, I can make you a Punnett Square when you wake up--
timprov: I don't want to be a Punnett Square when I wake up! I want to be a Punnett Square now!

I do wish to clarify that while frosting is a guideline for the important existential difference between muffins and cupcakes, it is not the endpoint of the discussion, which is I think how we got to kangaroos. Either that or we got to kangaroos because timprov should have gone to bed half an hour ago. I'm not really sure.

I am just relieved that there was nothing whatsoever about frosting ducks, geese, or grey ducks. Because that would have been just silly.
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[User Picture]From: cakmpls
2010-02-20 03:55 pm (UTC)
That sounds like a conversation my husband and younger son would have.
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[User Picture]From: papersky
2010-02-20 04:48 pm (UTC)
It's a muffin if it has milk in it. Cakelings and cupcakes don't have milk.

(I never understood that joke about how Muffin the Mule is a criminal offence in several states...)
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[User Picture]From: mrissa
2010-02-20 04:51 pm (UTC)
My chocolate cupcakes have milk in them. I can't tell from here whether we just plain disagree here or whether you wouldn't know mine had milk in them from biting into one. I suppose we can try an experiment sometime if you like, with a double-blind and like that. Science applied to chocolate is good science.
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[User Picture]From: papersky
2010-02-21 01:32 pm (UTC)
If it had milk in, I'd call it a muffin. But I doubt I could tell. It's just a reasonable place to draw an arbitrary line.
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[User Picture]From: mrissa
2010-02-21 01:35 pm (UTC)
Ah, I see.

Well, this makes it easier for me to tell myself that I should not set up an elaborate muffin/cupcake distinguishing session for 4th St. Because really I have other things I could do with that energy, but on the other hand...muffins! Cupcakes!
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[User Picture]From: cakmpls
2010-02-20 06:49 pm (UTC)
I suspect it has to do with "muffing"; "muff" is American slang for the female genitals and there are a number of expressions that use the word.
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[User Picture]From: skylarker
2010-02-20 06:24 pm (UTC)
This all sounds to me perfectly appropriate for Nonsense Day.
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[User Picture]From: mrissa
2010-02-20 07:08 pm (UTC)
We are occasionally nonsensical but mostly merely obscure.
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[User Picture]From: seabream
2010-02-20 06:41 pm (UTC)
<3 you two.

Now I'm picturing some sort of icing filled pastry that jumps energetically out of a toaster, but with muffin/cupcake consistency rather than flakiness. Of course, for it to work in a toaster means that it's not particularly muffin/cupcake shaped, but neither is a half kangaroo.
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[User Picture]From: mrissa
2010-02-20 07:09 pm (UTC)
True, it's hard to argue that something is half kangaroo in a half that has nothing to do with its shape, particularly when someone has already brought up the pocket.
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[User Picture]From: timprov
2010-02-21 12:36 am (UTC)
The kangaroos were Janet Kagan's fault.
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